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MAR-SAB 10:30 a.m. - 7 p.m.

Adrian Paci
Massimo Campigli (Collezione Ramo)

Adrian Paci answers questions from
Irina Zucca Alessandrelli, curator of Collezione Ramo

Give a definition of what drawing is for you.

I am not a fan of definitions, but if I were to strive to give one it might sound like this: drawing is a way of tracing on paper a dialogue with the appearances of things and the visions they produce in us.

However, as soon as we draw the first mark on the paper we are called to dialogue not only with external appearances or internal visions, but also with the signs that take shape in front of us activating a continuous and complex flow that calls into play the gaze, the hand, the mind and the matter.

What is your relationship with drawing? And with the history of Italian art of the last century?

Perhaps like all children, I started scribbling drawings on paper as a child and I did not stop but continued and still do. Every now and then I look back at my drawings done when I was 3, 4, 5 years old that my mother kept and I think the best things I did at that age. When I was 7 years old a family friend gave me a Leonardo Da Vinci book and I started copying his drawings. I still have those papers preserved. The 20th century was a complicated period for us who grew up during the communist regime in the sense that the study of art history stopped with Impressionism. Perhaps I had seen something by Guttuso in a Soviet magazine in the 1960s. The same family friend who gave me Leonardo's book had also told me about Morandi and his mysterious, humble yet monumental bottles. However, the real contact I had in the 1990s when I arrived in Milan on a scholarship. I remember spending so much time at the Museo del Novecento in Piazza Duomo trying to catch up with a historical gap but also admiring the individual works on display.

Why did you choose this work from Collezione Ramo?

Campigli was an author I discovered just then in my visits to the Museo del Novecento. I had been struck by his freshness mixed with an attraction to the archaic; a mixture of lightness and conventionality.